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crob227 (March 26th, 2008 @ 10:06 am)

i meant string.

sapoty (March 26th, 2008 @ 9:26 am)

There is no spring in the apparatus except the spring in the non-return valve at the top of the tube.

crob227 (March 24th, 2008 @ 1:37 pm)

instead of a spring why put a shaft on the end where the spring is and have a spring spring at the shaft, after the shaft is pulled by the vacumn the spring would pull the piston back down....with that being said, thats a perfect thing for your cell they run more effiecent in a vacumn, if you could limit the drag(piston)you might have a operating engine from your expirment.

sapoty (February 23rd, 2008 @ 9:55 am)

Electrolytic separation of water is typically only 60 to 65% efficient. The purpose of my experiment is to demonstrate the concept of reducing drag or creating lift, not creating energy. Energy is used to expel air, replace it with water vapour, and condense the vapour to create a low pressure/density zone.

wwei0015 (February 20th, 2008 @ 12:43 am)

From Physics point of view, the energy from the Oxy-Hydrogen explosion should be less than the energy used to separate them from water. So during the cycle of separating H2O to H2 and O, and burn them to return to H2O, there will be a net energy loss. You can not create extra energy. Am I missing something here?

sapoty (January 24th, 2008 @ 9:35 am)

At present there are just two investors in the patent. I don't plan to look for finance until I can demonstrate the excuser effect in a way that shows it is useful for reducing drag or creating lift.

sapoty (January 24th, 2008 @ 9:33 am)

I may be misunderstanding it but I don't think that is what happened. I think what you are describing would be for a case where the piston had momentum resulting from the pressure relief. In my experiment the piston had no momentum from the explosion because it was constrained from moving downwards.

MaxxxLogan (January 23rd, 2008 @ 9:04 am)

How many investors have you got?? And how much are you trying to raise?? Just curious??

MaxxxLogan (January 23rd, 2008 @ 9:01 am)

Latent heat? Implosion? Ok! This is nothing but a kinetic energy experiment. The same phenomena exists in high pressure pneumatics, it's called 'Pressure Wave Attenuation'. It occurs when you relieve a high pressure pneumatic cylinder to the atmosphere, and then suddenly you shut it off. The piston moves sharply in the direction of the leak created irrelevant of the pressure/vacuum on the other side. And you end up breaking some expensive components.

sapoty (January 7th, 2008 @ 3:19 am)

I have heard that there is a lot of research being done on catalysts to facilitate the electrolysis. But really my interest is in what I can do with the oxy-hydrogen in drag reduction.

sapoty (January 7th, 2008 @ 3:17 am)

Hi Chris, Thanks for your suggestion. I have been wondering about efficiency improvements for oxy-hydrogen generation. As I understand it the plate voltage for 100% efficiency is about 1.2 V, but I have to run it at 2 V to get a decent current (as you will know the gas production is always directly proportional to the current).

ChrisPCrunchy (January 6th, 2008 @ 10:38 pm)

Hi Sapoty. Many people ignore Latent heat energy in their calcs (The energy taken to expand water into vapour without rise in temp)You have burst the bubble of many a free energy supporter pointing this out. Have you looked at or tried any of the Lawton / Meyers cells, they do boost gas production with less power input.Maybe of benifit in your experiments.